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Feature #9658

[UI] EXIF metadata editing workflow inefficient

Added by Walter de la Internet almost 5 years ago. Updated almost 5 years ago.

Status:
New
Priority:
Low
Assignee:
-
Category:
Lighttable
Target version:
Start date:
11/03/2013
Due date:
% Done:

0%

Affected Version:
System:
bitness:
64-bit
hardware architecture:
amd64/x86

Description

I shoot a lot of archive style documentary photographs in various places. One of the most important features of documentary style photography is labelling shots.

Unfortunately, the current support for EXIF metadata editing in darktable is not very workflow friendly, frequently requiring the user to:
(1) Switch from darkroom to lighttable view
(2) Locate or open the right-side metadata editing tab in question
(3) Click on a field
(4) Alter the field (which has limited viewing space for long descriptions)
(5) Click the save/apply button
(6) Switch back to darkroom view

This may not sound like much, but the switching from the keyboard, aiming the mouse, going through the motions, then recontextualizing once the view has changed is a real drag when you have to do it for 100s of photos per session. Coming from Picasa, where it was as easy as "just start typing" this adds up to a really big pain in the ass, not to mention an RSI-boost. It's a serious workflow problem for documentary style shooting or any other workflows where labelling is critical to the overall output.

History

#1 Updated by Tobias Ellinghaus almost 5 years ago

  • Tracker changed from Bug to Feature
  • Category set to Lighttable
  • Target version set to Future

Darkroom is meant to develop photos, not to sort or label them. However, the current metadata handling is subject to a general rewrite, so any new ideas can be considered once it is actually done. I am sure that there is a ticket regarding that already but I can't find it atm.

#2 Updated by Christian iuga almost 5 years ago

You have a shortcut ( Ctrl- T, if i remember) to add a tag on picture(s) on ligthroom

#3 Updated by Simon Harhues almost 5 years ago

Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:

Darkroom is meant to develop photos, not to sort or label them. However, the current metadata handling is subject to a general rewrite, so any new ideas can be considered once it is actually done. I am sure that there is a ticket regarding that already but I can't find it atm.

Sorry Tobias, but let me quote from the dt website: "darktable is an open source photography workflow application [...]". In my understanding meta data handling (labelling, [geo] tagging, ...) is part of a photography workflow. I believe there are many other users as well, who would like to see improvements in that area. And thus I really like what you wrote, that meta data handling is subject to a general rewrite. As this will be a bigger task, I'm not sure how to handle it. bugracker? wiki? mailinglist? irc? (physical) meeting?

#4 Updated by Tobias Ellinghaus almost 5 years ago

Read again, I wrote "Darkroom" and not "darktable".

This stuff doesn't need to be in redmine or the wiki, it needs someone who comes up with a solid design.

#5 Updated by Simon Harhues almost 5 years ago

Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:

Read again, I wrote "Darkroom" and not "darktable".

Sorry! Did misread that and thus misunderstood you. It was not my intention to fight with you.

This stuff doesn't need to be in redmine or the wiki, it needs someone who comes up with a solid design.

My personal opinion is that this is to complex as that someone will just come up with a good design by him-/herself (and implement it) and everybody is happy. I thought more about an iterative process from a group of people.

#6 Updated by Tobias Ellinghaus almost 5 years ago

No offense taken.

About the design, I don't think that it's complicated, just boring. And of course we would discuss it and say what parts need to be changed once it's done in a first iteration. Anyway, this is something that has to wait, there are other priorities right now, like getting the next release out. And the bugtracker is certainly not the place to have these discussions.

#7 Updated by Christian iuga almost 5 years ago

Hi for me, your workflow is not good, you have to add tag to all your photo then go to darkroom mode for all your photo of a serie (or the inverse)

But if it's not too difficult, add the "/modules/tagging/tag shortcut (default is <Primary>t)" on darkroom mode can help some people?
it's will not overload the gui & keep consistant how darktable is working.

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